IBIS Macromodel Task Group Meeting date: 16 Oct 2007 Members (asterisk for those attending): * Ambrish Varma, Cadence Design Systems * Arpad Muranyi, Mentor Graphics Corp. Barry Katz, SiSoft * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group David Banas, Xilinx Donald Telian, consultant * Doug White, Cisco Systems Essaid Bensoudane, ST Microelectronics Ganesh Narayanaswamy, ST Micro Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems Ian Dodd Joe Abler, IBM John Angulo, Mentor Graphics John Shields, Mentor Graphics Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems Kumar, Cadence Design Systems Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems Luis Boluna, Cisco * Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp. Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems Mike Steinberger, SiSoft Patrick O'Halloran, Tiburon Design Automation Paul Fernando, NCSU Radek Biernacki, Agilent (EESof) * Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Ray Comeau, Cadence Design Systems * Richard Ward, Texas Instruments Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent Shangli Wu, Cadence Stephen Scearce, Cisco Systems Syed Huq, Cisco Systems Syed Sadeghi, ST Micro * Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Vikas Gupta, Xilinx Vuk Borich, Agilent * Walter Katz, SiSoft -------------------------- Call for patent disclosure: No one declared a patent. ----- Opens: ------------- Review of ARs: - SiSoft will propose a new reserved_parameter keyword table - TBD - Write parameter passing syntax proposal for a possible BIRD a) Propose a parameter passing syntax for AMI models b) IBIS spec should allow parameter value assignment for *-AMS using a syntax that is consistent with the parameter passing syntax of the AMI models c) Allow parameter passing for SPICE [External ...] also? - Berkeley SPICE does not handle paraeters at all. - Walter proposed handling this with a preprocessor - Ian: send relevant papers on related IEEE work - TBD - Steve Pytel has tentatively agreed to attend and discuss. - Arpad will try and contact Rich Mellitz to get him to attend this meeting. - Arpad: Review the new macro library files. - TBD ------------- New Discussion: - Potential Modifications for differential I/O - Differential stuff currently in two sections: [Diff Pin] and [Model] - Do we need a [Diff Model] section? - Walter discussed the existing and new (proposed) differential parameters - It was noted that driver test circuits can be quite complex - e.g., can have common mode voltage sources attached, etc. - Do we need a "subcircuit" approach for test loads, so as to keep the IBIS standard as simple as possible (and not have specs for all special cases)? - There are special cases, such as programmable I/O types in memory controllers, which may have different parameters required for each that need to be handled AR: Arpad will forward Walter's email regarding differential parameters to the group. All should comment via the mailer. AR: Todd will send update of SiSoft IBIS AMI toolkit. Changes: Easier to use, all I/O files can be .csv, updated program to generate patterns, etc. Next meeting: 23 Oct 2007 12:00pm PT